850 likes for South Dragons page

The South Dragons fans have pushed their page calling on their return past 850 likes of Facebook.

The page currently has a total of 851 likes and there is no reason why the fans can push that total closer to 1000 before the year is out which is only 29 days away.

Getting to 1,000 likes would be an important step for Dragons fans as it would cement it’s spot as the team Victorian fans are calling for to be the second Melbourne team in the NBL.

It is also important for Dragons fans for as the league is reportedly running hot the competition to enter the league would be hotting up and so the Dragons must stake their claim with mass fan support.

Readers may wonder why a predominantly Melbourne Tigers site is saying all this and the answer is the above is factual and also this writer believes in the pursuit of (legal and sane) happiness and if the South Dragons returning to the NBL makes people happy then so be it.

Those who love/loved the South Dragons or just want an alternative to Melbourne United can visit and choose to like the page by clicking here.

WANMU will continue to report on the Dragons fans progress as it happens.


Which title is the best?

1993 or 1997?
2005/06 or 2007/08?

As most Tigers fans know the Tigers after going through the 1980’s empty handed won two titles each in the 1990’s and 2000’s and contested an additional two Grand Final series each in both decades.

Each title win is memorable for their own reasons, 1993 was won over in Perth where the Tigers had to win over there for the first time to win the title and 1997 was a year that started horribly before the incredible winning streak that (Melbourne United needs another six to match) propelled the Tigers to the title against the Magic which avenged the narrow losses in 1992 and 1996.

Then came 2005/06 when Brian Goorjian and his Kings were dominating the league and the Tigers dispatched them with relative ease and then the 2007/08 series was a series of thrills as it went down to the wire with the Tigers winning the decider in Sydney to take the title 3-2.

Each title won brought a great level of satisfaction, beating the Wildcats in Perth to the dismay of their fans in 1993 was something to behold, beating the Magic was always something special and beating Brian Goorjian twice more was something to be pleased with as the Tigers finally won more series than lost against him (Brian struck back with the South Dragons in 2008/09 making it 3-3).

So which is the best win of them all? Is there a definitive answer or perhaps the answer just simply is………

All of them.

Can 5,500 people be enough?

With all the glitz and glamour of the NBL, our eyes turn to the stands to see just how filled they are in order to see what a new Melbourne side needs to be a success.

Melbourne United have been struggling to approach full houses despite a hot start and lots and lots of promos, Perth meanwhile have had two games at Perth Arena and have had 11,645 and 10,423 people attend it’s 14,846 person arena so those figures make Perth Arena 78.44% and 70.21% filled.

Hisense Arena can hold 10,500 for Basketball if areas are not curtained off and so if we ignore the curtained off areas and count every seat, the 7,009 people who attended the opening home game filled Hisense Arena only 66.75% of the arena’s maximum design and the second game had an attendance of 5,243 fans which filled 49.93% of Hisense Arena.

So based on those figures Perth had a higher percentage of seats filled by margins of 11.69% and 20.28% which is quite a significant total.

Now if we say Hisense tops out at 7,009 as the press said 7,009 was capacity then the second Hisense game was filled to 74.80% capacity which is a massive difference from 49.93% of a 10,500 seat Arena to 74.80% of a 7,009 seat configuration of the same arena.

The average total of games at Hisense so far is about 5,500, it could be slightly higher or lower due to one of the games not having a published total so United needs to fill Hisense Arena to about 75 to 80% of the apparent 7,009 person capacity to keep above average but then again management can take the covers off seats or add covers anytime which screws totals up yet make them look good or bad depends on who is reporting.

Now we know that United can get 10,000 people, we saw it last year and one occasion was hailed as a great day for Victorian Basketball even though Tigers and Magic fans would likely say ‘Been there, Done that’ and Fox Sports believes that attendance will go up in the summer and if they are right then perhaps United will challenge those levels especially if the hot form continues.

The South Dragons also came close to 10,000 on October 18 2008 when they got 9,308 people into Hisense Arena followed by 8,093 people on February 8 2009 and 8,201 and 8,922 to the second and fifth game of the Grand Final series on March 8 and 13 2009 all games were against the Melbourne Tigers which supports the theory that Victorian vs Victorian games bring out more fans than Victorian vs Other for attendance was down into the 3,000-4,000 range.

Hopefully somewhere out there a basketball consortium is seeing what we see and say right if we get a minimum of 5,500 to our games in the early part of the season then we can challenge Melbourne United in the NBL and then aim to keep pace as holidays are in full swing from December to late January.

Can it be done? With the cash being thrown around it is entirely possible heck it could even be a certainty if you pick a club that has runs on the board like a Melbourne Tigers, South Dragons, SE Melbourne Magic, Geelong Supercats (SEABL success story) and even the Coburg Giants who have been in the NBL and are playing elsewhere.

Every now and then teams who are formed from nothing are hits because they get the right playing address, right people behind desks, right staff and right players but rich people probably want to play it safe and go for an established team name, colours and history like what happened with the Sydney Kings and soon the Brisbane Bullets.

We can only hope.

Dragons fans flock to WANMU

South Dragons fans have today proven they are hungry as ever after flocking to our story ‘Dragons p###sed off by HS mistake

Our first story on the Dragons was back ironically in October 2014 when we reported on the success of ‘Save our South Dragons’ with this story then we reported on the page reaching 800 likes then it got really quiet and so we wondered if the Magic and Dragons stopped their charge for the NBL then the Dragons page recently wrote an article on The Pick and Roll which inspired this answer from the Tigers fans point of view and then the HS made their mistake.

Today the story on the Herald Sun mistake was reluctantly shared with the Dragons page and reluctantly is because you never know what response one would get being this writer is a Tigers fan who doesn’t buy into hatred etc that most people say about Victorian basketball because every side deserves to get their opinion heard even if somebody says hell no to it.

Almost immediately the link was shared by the page and boom the Dragons fans flocked to this blog site like fire breathing Dragons spotting a group of hapless Knights in a fantasy movie, so much so the current total has broken all records for this blog site.

The amount of readers (60+ and still rising) has shown that their is a lot of interest in the Dragons and it is advised Dragons fans that you mine the interest for all it is worth, start a petition on Change.org calling on the NBL to admit the Dragons into the NBL or do some more of that great art that is made for the page like the picture in this story, do stories on how Dragons players are doing now, anything to get the interest piquing further.

This is your time to do something, if you are truly hungry for it to happen then you got to make it happen, it only takes one person to stand up and take a chance to start things rolling, are you the reader of this story that person?????

Moral of today’s story is that Dragons fans love to read.


Dragons fans p###ed off by HS mistake

You got to admire South Dragons fans, they are very protective of their team who had a very short yet very successful life in the NBL, a life that could just continue in the future if the fans have it their way.

A great demonstration of the Dragons fans defending their history was when the Herald Sun posted about United winning three straight games in a row and mentioned the Melbourne Tigers winning 9 in a row in 2008/09 and going on to win the title but several mistakes were written in that article.

Firstly it says the Tigers won the title in 2008/09 but the South Dragons were the ones who won in 2008/09 defeating the Melbourne Tigers in 5 games.

Secondly the Melbourne Tigers didn’t win 9 straight in 2008/09 and neither did the Dragons, the Melbourne Tigers won those 9 games straight in 2007/08 and won that season’s title.

Finally there’s supposed to be a ‘the’ before Melbourne Tigers in the article, perhaps they were trying to say Melbourne United for ‘the Melbourne United’ doesn’t sound right and remembered the Melbourne Tigers were the team that done it.

Current Hisense Arena occupiers Melbourne United have recorded a dip in attendance with the 7,009 first week total (Sunday) being followed up by a 5,243 attendance which was on a Friday night, a loss of 1,766 attendees or 25.2%.

Moral of the story today is do not anger Dragons fans.

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Has the Dragons and Magic fan charge stopped?

When talk of the South Dragons possible return to the NBL was running rampant in the media, Facebook group ‘Save Our South Dragons‘ experienced a massive surge in numbers of likes for their page but now the page has been stuck in the 800’s for some time,

The same has occurred over at ‘Bring Back The South East Melbourne Magic‘ for they have stopped in the 600’s after experiencing a boom of their own which is a shame considering when thriving they have a very passionate community.

With the United Ballers all but missing out on the 2014/15 NBL finals series, now is a good time for both the Magic and the Dragons fans and the teams consortium’s to start flexing their muscles while readying for the 2016/17 season for Victorians don’t like teams who fail to make the big time and will be looking for a team who state they can walk the walk and talk the talk.

On the other hand, the Melbourne Tigers are still busy rebuilding and planning their future with their fans hoping for some BigV success this year so don’t count out the Tigers from looming in the shadows of the United Ballers and raising the stakes in the ‘Battle for Melbourne’.

Stay tuned fans.

Dragons roar to 800 likes

Save Our South Dragons Facebook page has passed 800 views thanks to a mention in The Age, the group had 528 members before The Age on December 10 published a story mentioning the South Dragons and the group which lead to the rapid increase in likes.

The group has some way to go to catch Melbourne United who have 35,000 likes although the majority of those were from the days the page was run for the Melbourne Tigers, South East Melbourne Magic currently has 610 likes while Melbourne Tigers fans are discussing opening a fan page in the near future.

Save Our South Dragons hope that the increase in likes continues and that the page enters four figure likes real soon to ensure that the NBL really knows that there is great interest in the revival of the former NBL team.

Tigers fans watch Melbourne battle with interest

Tigers fans have been watching the news about the SE Melbourne Magic and South Dragons bids to enter the NBL with interest for it has the potential to give fans a team to support in the NBL whilst the Tigers are on the sidelines.

This does not mean that Tigers fans will be buying Magic or Dragons memberships by the dozen as the majority asked in ‘Save The Melbourne Tigers’ have answered that they will wait for the Tigers to rejoin the competition instead of joining one of the two bids.

Fans have also stated strongly that they don’t mind which team gets in because they’ll get to beat Melbourne United, this could bode well for the incoming team for they will be looking to set up something special against their cross city rivals.

Tigers fans have overwhelmingly voted no to joining the CTI Melbourne United Ballers ranks with no votes recorded on the option, this does not bode well for United who are no doubt hoping those NBL fans who are supporters of the Tigers but dislike the thought of the Magic or the Dragons back in the NBL will join Melbourne United instead.

We Are Not United wishes both bids the best of luck and will be continuing to report on the outcome of their efforts when the news comes to hand.

Add some Tigers to your day

Motivation can be hard at times, success at Melbourne United whether it’s at corporate level or playing level may make you feel down but you can make things turn around easily by just talking about or showing something about the Melbourne Tigers.

You can post your thoughts on a great match video and show video of it for others to give their opinion, you can show trading cards of players throughout the years, you can talk about how good a Tigers vs United match would be in a future season, you could tell how eager you are to be playing in the near future as the Tigers against United on the NBL2K13 MOD of NBA2k13 when it is released or even Tigers vs Magic, Tigers vs Giants and all the other Melbourne and Geelong teams, you can post a picture of yourself and family in Tigers gear, you can tweet or post blog posts or newspaper articles that have gotten your attention and more.

People love seeing action, if a page or group has people posting then it gets the attention of others and they feel like contributing and it continues on from there and it can become catchy and once that happens it can spread around and carry on from there.

Giants, Titans, Magic, Supercats and Dragons fans can all do the same thing about their teams because if you remain silent about something you really believe in then nobody will know about it and the hopes and dreams you have will fade off and eventually die and that would be an awful shame.

Add some Tigers to your day because it could be something that will inspire others to do the same.

Will the Giants fans rise?

Over the last few days we’ve reported on South East Melbourne Magic  and South Dragons fans starting to increase their efforts in the hopes the NBL brings their teams back into the competition but fans of one team have largely been quiet and they are the fans of the North Melbourne Giants, As most of us know the Giants who were originally the Coburg Giants (who still exist) had their own array of basketball stars such as Darryl McDonald, Scott Fisher and Ray Borner and great coaches such as Bruce Palmer and Brett Brown and they as much as any team have the right to oppose any moves by Melbourne United to ‘honour’ them particularly when their club is not dead.

Giants fans are encouraged to make a group or a page and share the Giants greatest moments, keep people updated on how well Coburg are doing and enable fans to give Melbourne United their point of view, the Giants as well as the Geelong Supercats (who are very much alive and will be written about later) deserve to not have their history used as a membership and/or game attendance selling point by Melbourne United because as mentioned earlier both teams are still living in different competitions and have been successful in their own right.