Taipans bite United again

Cairns Taipans last week gave Melbourne United a ‘debut’ to forget and last night the Taipans again dominated United by winning 88 to 73 with former Melbourne Tiger Cameron Tragardh top scoring for the Taipans with 18 points.

There have been many wisecracks made since the end of the game with many wondering if Darryl McDonald will be coach on Sunday against the NZ Breakers after Chris Anstey ‘stepped down’ after coaching United for just one regular season game, United will be playing at the Margaret Court Arena and Bet365.com is being really generous giving United ($1.87) shorter odds than New Zealand ($1.95) who is currently 2-0 compared to United’s 0-2 while TAB Sportsbet has both sides at $1.90 each.

It will be interesting to see if Melbourne United do honour any of the past Victorian NBL teams with jerseys ranging from the rafters (or outside the court like the Tigers ones at Hisense Arena) or not, while hanging famous jerseys is considered a good gesture it is considered meaningless by many for the numbers aren’t retired and in many eyes an honoured player is known by both name and number.

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Will the Giants fans rise?

Over the last few days we’ve reported on South East Melbourne Magic  and South Dragons fans starting to increase their efforts in the hopes the NBL brings their teams back into the competition but fans of one team have largely been quiet and they are the fans of the North Melbourne Giants, As most of us know the Giants who were originally the Coburg Giants (who still exist) had their own array of basketball stars such as Darryl McDonald, Scott Fisher and Ray Borner and great coaches such as Bruce Palmer and Brett Brown and they as much as any team have the right to oppose any moves by Melbourne United to ‘honour’ them particularly when their club is not dead.

Giants fans are encouraged to make a group or a page and share the Giants greatest moments, keep people updated on how well Coburg are doing and enable fans to give Melbourne United their point of view, the Giants as well as the Geelong Supercats (who are very much alive and will be written about later) deserve to not have their history used as a membership and/or game attendance selling point by Melbourne United because as mentioned earlier both teams are still living in different competitions and have been successful in their own right.

 

Magic fans want their team back too

South East Melbourne Magic fans have been calling for the Magic to return to the NBL and these days fans now have a page to go to called Bring back the South East Melbourne Magic, the page has over 600 likes and has some fine artwork as well as pictures of fantastic memorabilia but they also working on banding together to fight for the rebirth of the great NBL team and their efforts are top class.

The members are really friendly so if you are a fan of the SE Melbourne Magic or you respected them and you want to join them then click here or any of the links on this page to be taken there, there is also an Instagram account and an Twitter account for fans to visit too, watch them carefully for reminisces and potential future actions, now is the right time to stand up and be heard today and every day onwards.

 

Dragons fans starting to roar again

South Dragons fans were perhaps one of the most let down fans in the history of the NBL, they came into the league as a new Melbourne team to rival the Melbourne Tigers and they had a rough start before bouncing back before going down before tasting the ultimate success in winning the 2008/2009 title, soon after their world came crashing down when the owners of the team had no faith in the NBL which was at the time running on heavy duty life support and withdrawn from the league robbing the Dragons of a potential dynasty under wonder coach Brian Goorjian and robbing the Tigers of a state rival as threatening as the South East Melbourne Magic and North Melbourne Giants and there is the small matter of the withdrawal robbing the Tigers of revenge after the Dragons easily won the title.

Now it’s 2014 and the Dragons fans have not forgotten their time in the NBL at all and they are hungry to return and carry on with business again just like the fans of the South East Melbourne Magic are at the moment, Dragons fans are aware of Melbourne United and their aims and it angers them, the old rivalry with the Tigers comes to mind and secondly they don’t want United prancing around saying they represent South Dragons fans, so if you would like to help the South Dragons fans get their team back in the game and hopefully the Tigers too then visit Save Our South Dragons and give them a like.

Remember fans speaking up lets the league know that Melbourne is a more than a one team town and it could be three or four team town but if you don’t like groups and don’t comment then they will never know and United will continue to live on alone being many people’s unwanted representative.

Media belts United over Anstey’s departure

Chris Anstey’s departure as Melbourne United coach just one game into the season has brought Melbourne’s media to United’s doorstep and some of the statements reached mocking levels, SEN today asked listeners ‘Should Melbourne United’s longest serving coach been able to double his record.’, 65% said that Anstey should of been given the chance instead of his United stint ending at just one game.

Meanwhile on Facebook 94.44% of those at  Save The Melbourne Tigers (not Melbourne United) answered ‘No’ to the question on ‘Do you believe that Chris Anstey really did step down on his own accord?’ while there has been a sharp spike in pro Tigers messages at CTI Melbourne United’s Facebook page as many feel Chris Anstey was pushed out of the job despite Melbourne United denying this was the case.

The Herald Sun slammed Melbourne United with the headline ‘United No More’ with a picture featuring Darryl McDonald, David Barlow, Chris Anstey and team owner Michael Slepoy looking downcast on the sidelines during Sunday’s game while a cartoon showing Anstey in a net saying ‘Time Out’ was also shown in the article while The Age also weighed into this chaotic situation even as United said they’ll undertake a nationwide search for a new coach .

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Was Anstey Sacked or Pushed?

Chris Anstey is gone from Melbourne United but the question is was he sacked or was he pushed? Melbourne United have said on their website that he stepped down while SEN and other media organizations said he was sacked and SEN is a very reliable source when it comes to sports news and they wouldn’t want to get their information wrong.

Regardless it appears that he either lost the support of the playing group or lost the ability to communicate with them, this has happened at AFL club Western Bulldogs when the coach lost the support of the playing group including it’s captain who wants a trade from the club and he therefore had to leave the club.

‘We Are Not United’ has no beef with Chris Anstey or the players (although on the players side we wish Tomlinson and Page didn’t use #6 and #21), Chris Anstey played great basketball for the Tigers, he helped the team win two of it’s four titles and he lead them to finals last year, fans found shortcomings in his coaching ability but overall he was eventually successful getting them to finals and that should not be forgotten.

We leave great Australian basketballer Andrew Bogut with the final word.

Tigers fans rally at Hisense Arena

As mentioned in the Herald Sun, Tigers fans held a rally outside Hisense Arena and put on a friendly and informative display.

The afternoon did not start well for Tigers fans with a security officer radioing for backup immediately after Tigers fans started showing up leading to four security officers surrounding three members who were awaiting the arrival of others, after a debate over rights to be in the park, the park manager arrived and told the group they had to move on but the group were told the main footpath was acceptable and so the group moved to the footpath which gave the gatherers the opportunity to meet Basketball fans and the general public allowing Tigers fans message to get through to the people, fliers were distributed to the people and they were well received with many no doubt been given food for thought based on the information provided.

As you can see the fans looked brilliant with their signs and their jerseys and there are plans to consider doing it again and with the Bathurst 1000 and the marathon out of the way more Tigers fans may be available to rally with those who have done it before and really ensure that United and the NBL know that Melbourne Tigers are still on the minds of fans and perhaps Kestleman, Slepoy and Crivelli will let the Tigers name and history go and let it live on again like the Sydney Kings or in the case of the NRL South Sydney Rabbitohs although in their case their rights weren’t held onto by somebody else but they were resurrected and in the minds of fans that’s all that matters.

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Newspapers talk up attendance

Basketball fans this morning woke up to find reports on Melbourne United being hammered by the Cairns Taipans and then find an article praising the off court support for Melbourne United

United CEO Vince Crivelli was quoted in the newspaper as saying the following
“It’s a good start. This time last year, to be honest, we were playing out of a 3000-seat venue and we were struggling to fill it.”

Melbourne Tigers fans particularly those who attended those games at the beginning of the 2013/14 season report that ‘The Cage’ had a healthy if not packed attendance and when matches went to the Hisense Arena the crowds got bigger and pushing into the 6000 range, the attendance of 5704 at yesterday’s game is also questioned for sections of empty seats were spotted at the game and on TV and sections were covered up, the sections that were covered up are only uncovered when ticket sales pass 6,001 so there was not a huge demand for tickets.

The newspaper described the courtside action at the game which is contestable by those in attendence as we have below the quote below.
“The new mascot was a walking basketball and a bloke in a sparkly silver coat to rival Joffa’s get-up warmed up the crowd. And, as always, there were the Dodo girls.

In a move to enhance the match-day experience, VIP seats ringed the court, following the lead of the NBA, but, alas, there were no movie stars courtside. The crowd vibe was good; Melbourne chants punctuated the play, the hand clappers were out and Mark Worthington got the United fans up and about early when he put the first score on the board for the game.”

VIP seats were reported to be mostly empty and in one photograph of the playing action the VIP’s could be seen looking everywhere else but the action, the crowd vibe was reported by many to be rather flat, the Mascot is named Mr Baller and the Melbourne chants were ‘B-A-L-L-E-R-S Ballers!’ which confused people because since when do a team chant the name of a mascot leaving some to wonder if the team name is really the CTI Melbourne United Ballers and not CTI Melbourne United in that case people would rather work in a sewage plant than support a professional team called Ballers which can easily be called Bawlers by those who love a wisecrack.

The newspaper writer forgot to mention that outside the court is the six retired jerseys of the Melbourne Tigers (including the demanded to remove Lanard Copeland’s #21 jersey) and the four championship banners earned by the Melbourne Tigers, the writer also forgot to mention that none of United’s promises to honour the other Victorian teams that graced the NBL were honoured with their own jerseys and other materials.

The newspaper article writer had this to say about the change from the Melbourne Tigers to Melbourne United.
“But, just five months after announcing the controversial decision to change the team’s name from Melbourne Tigers, Crivelli said the team had a good platform to build from.”

The team had a good platform to build on because the front office and coaching staff were largely Tigers from the 2013/2014 season, the playing roster is largely the same as the 2013/14 season with even this years additions being ex Tigers, the courts were largely used by the Tigers, Facebook likes were helped by the page being the Melbourne Tigers page before May 20 and even Melbourne United Fan Weekly were operating as Melbourne Tigers Fan Weekly, it should also be noted that promotional efforts for United were bigger than any promotional effort made by Kestleman, Sleepoy and Crivelli when they ran the Tigers.

At long last Melbourne Tigers fans opposed to Melbourne United finally got a say in the press, these fans efforts were nothing short of fantastic as they conducted themselves in the finest possible manner and were well received by those who stopped by them although some have reported that security guards were on hand to intimidate Tigers supporters, below is what the newspaper had to say.

“But some had already made up their mind before the game had started. A small group of long-time Melbourne Tigers’ fans staged their own mini-protest out the front of Hisense Arena before the game, handing out `Save Our Melbourne Tigers’ flyers.

Decked out in their Tigers’ gear, they held banners reading `Tigers forever, United never’, `Tiger Pride, United Shame’ and `United in Treachery’.

Dedicated Tigers’ supporter Graham Allen, 65, said he’d been supporting the Tigers for more than 25 years, but wouldn’t be following United. “Our main beef is they didn’t consult anybody,” Allen said. “They’ve got rid of everything that even looks like the Tigers and they’ve come up with this strange idea that a whole bunch of people that don’t support anything will come and support this, I don’t follow that one. “I’ve heard all the justifications … we’ve watched other teams start in Melbourne, all fail, the only one that survived is the Tigers.”

Vince Crivelli had the last words in the newspaper article with the following;

“I think we learn a lot from today both on the court and off the court on how to present our game and our brand,” Crivelli said.

“Once you invite people to join you on a campaign, I think it becomes very powerful. The word unite is there to actually call to action.”

Inviting people to join a campaign is one thing, getting them to join is another and by all appearances after the first day the campaign will be harder than what Vince Crivelli and those at United HQ (Tigers HQ) have envisioned especially if losses such as the one on Sunday switch and the wrong spreading of information switches the public off.

United insult the Sydney Kings in Arena

There is no doubt that Melbourne and Sydney compete in a lot of things in recent years from which should be higher up the world’s greatest city chart, which city should be our nation’s capital instead of Canberra to which Basketball team performs better, Tigers fans remember those mid 2000’s when the Sydney Kings came up against Melbourne in the finals and the honours were pretty much equally shared as they taken titles from each other, victories were made sweeter because the Kings were coached by Brian Goorjian and defeats were bitter for the same reason even if he did play for the Tigers at the beginning part of the team’s NBL journey.

Melbourne United have decided to take on the Sydney Kings with a message at Hisense Arena telling United’s players to ‘Go Hard Or Go To Sydney’, there is no doubt that Sydney when they discover this apparent message of inspiration will be either not amused or amused enough to come up with something of their own, perhaps Sydney will just let their Basketball do all the talking when the two sides meet in the near future for they are considered just as formidable as United are.

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United keeps Tigers titles, jerseys hanging

Melbourne Tigers fans were unhappy to discover that the club’s four championship banners were still hanging far above the court at Hisense Arena, Melbourne United have said multiple times that they are a club born out of the Melbourne Tigers and by this logic those banners should not be up there even if the Tigers name and history is owned by Melbourne United.

Melbourne Tigers fans have also pointed out that the retired jerseys of the Melbourne Tigers including Lanard Copeland’s #21 are also still up (Picture taken by K.E) despite United assuring people that permission would be asked to keep those jerseys up which in the case of Lanard Copeland would of been a big no based on his comments since the announcement of United back in May.

Fans also noted that the promised honouring of past Victorian NBL teams were not done with no signs of Magic, Titans, Giants, Bears, Supercats, Saints, Spectres jerseys or title banners anywhere at Hisense Arena, this knowledge will no doubt lead to questions from fans of those teams who were swayed to joined United based on their promise to do such things.

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